[OT] Do you switch off/on your wireless keyboard/mouse?

[Frank Slootweg]

Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?

If so, when and for how long? During the night? More often? At other
times? Etc..

Background:

We bought a Logitech MK295 Silent Wireless Combo (K295 keyboard and
M220 mouse) for my wife's computer.

The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse. It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.

Questions:

Probably the Logitech site has some more information on this, but I'd
like to hear from people who actually use a wireless keyboard or/and
mouse. So, what (not) to do and what to expect as realistic battery
life.

So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night? Also for shorter periods
during the day? Etc..

And if you switch them off, is the computer also switched off or
sleeping during that time? If sleeping, do you know if the USB-port is
powered when the computer is sleeping?

Thanks.

[R.Wieser]

Frank,

Post by Frank Slootweg
The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse. It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.

That "battery life" is specified for when the devices are in use. Although
batteries do leak some charge when they are not in use it is pretty-much
negligable for modern ones (think 10-20 years).

Post by Frank Slootweg
So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night?

I personally never switch them off when they are on the table. And yes, I
get at least the battery life outof them you mentioned. Than again, I'm
not using them over prolonged periods (an hour or two each day).

IOW, I don't think that the stand-by current is something you need to worry
about (both the keyboard and mouse go to sleep after a while of not being
used, only to be woken up by a keypress)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

[knuttle]

Post by R.Wieser
Frank,

Post by Frank Slootweg
The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse. It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.

That "battery life" is specified for when the devices are in use. Although
batteries do leak some charge when they are not in use it is pretty-much
negligable for modern ones (think 10-20 years).

Post by Frank Slootweg
So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night?

I personally never switch them off when they are on the table. And yes, I
get at least the battery life outof them you mentioned. Than again, I'm
not using them over prolonged periods (an hour or two each day).
IOW, I don't think that the stand-by current is something you need to worry
about (both the keyboard and mouse go to sleep after a while of not being
used, only to be woken up by a keypress)
Regards,
Rudy Wieser

I am a use of a mouse, I have tried the wireless ones and find that I
get a couple of weeks use from the mouse, be for its response become
very slow. Yes I could get a little longer use on the batteries, but
the response becomes painful.

I have gave up on them and gone back to a wired mouse.

[aer]

Post by R.Wieser
Frank,

  The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse. It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.

That "battery life" is specified for when the devices are in use.
Although
batteries do leak some charge when they are not in use it is pretty-much
negligable for modern ones (think 10-20 years).

  So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night?

I personally never switch them off when they are on the table.  And
yes, I
get at least the battery life outof them you mentioned.   Than again, I'm
not using them over prolonged periods (an hour or two each day).
IOW, I don't think that the stand-by current is something you need to worry
about (both the keyboard and mouse go to sleep after a while of not being
used, only to be woken up by a keypress)
Regards,
Rudy Wieser

I am a  use of a mouse,  I have tried the wireless ones and find that I
get a couple of weeks use from the mouse, be for its response become
very slow.  Yes I could get a little longer use on the batteries, but
the response becomes painful.
I have gave up on them and gone back to a wired mouse.

I used to use a wireless mouse and keyboard at work for a few years. I
always turned them off before I went home for the day. I didn't have to
replace the batteries that often, I'd say about once a year if I
remember correctly. But I switches back to wired keyboards and mice so I
don't have to remember to turn them off and it's one less thing I have
to do.

[Char Jackson]

Post by knuttle
I am a use of a mouse, I have tried the wireless ones and find that I
get a couple of weeks use from the mouse, be for its response become
very slow. Yes I could get a little longer use on the batteries, but
the response becomes painful.
I have gave up on them and gone back to a wired mouse.

Just so you know, "a couple of weeks" indicates a problem, so please don't
judge all wireless mice by that measure. I get about 2 1/2 years from a
pair of AA's in my Logitech M705 mouse.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Char Jackson

Post by knuttle
I am a use of a mouse, I have tried the wireless ones and find that I
get a couple of weeks use from the mouse, be for its response become
very slow. Yes I could get a little longer use on the batteries, but
the response becomes painful.
I have gave up on them and gone back to a wired mouse.

Just so you know, "a couple of weeks" indicates a problem, so please don't
judge all wireless mice by that measure. I get about 2 1/2 years from a
pair of AA's in my Logitech M705 mouse.

What happened to the sort where the receiver was a caddy/charger, and
you put the mouse - which had a rechargeable - in it when not using it?
I always thought that represented good lateral thinking on the part of
the designer. Maybe the move from infra-red to wireless killed it (the
receiver became much smaller as it didn't have to be line of sight), but
it does bring the problem back (though only a minor problem if people
are getting years).

[Char Jackson]

On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:30:50 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by Char Jackson

Post by knuttle
I am a use of a mouse, I have tried the wireless ones and find that I
get a couple of weeks use from the mouse, be for its response become
very slow. Yes I could get a little longer use on the batteries, but
the response becomes painful.
I have gave up on them and gone back to a wired mouse.

Just so you know, "a couple of weeks" indicates a problem, so please don't
judge all wireless mice by that measure. I get about 2 1/2 years from a
pair of AA's in my Logitech M705 mouse.

What happened to the sort where the receiver was a caddy/charger, and
you put the mouse - which had a rechargeable - in it when not using it?

I've never seen that approach and it's something I'd definitely avoid. A
caddy/charger sounds like something extra that I don't want or need, an
extra device taking up precious real estate, especially since the caddy
itself is most likely wired. Getting away from a wired solution is the
whole point, IMHO.

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
I always thought that represented good lateral thinking on the part of
the designer. Maybe the move from infra-red to wireless killed it (the
receiver became much smaller as it didn't have to be line of sight), but
it does bring the problem back (though only a minor problem if people
are getting years).

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Char Jackson
On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:30:50 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"

[]

Post by Char Jackson

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
What happened to the sort where the receiver was a caddy/charger, and
you put the mouse - which had a rechargeable - in it when not using it?

I've never seen that approach and it's something I'd definitely avoid. A
caddy/charger sounds like something extra that I don't want or need, an
extra device taking up precious real estate, especially since the caddy
itself is most likely wired. Getting away from a wired solution is the
whole point, IMHO.

When cordless mice/keyboards first appeared, they used infra-red, not
microwaves - same as cordless TV remote controls do. (We don't refer to
_those_ _as_ "cordless" any more, as we just expect them to be. But they
weren't always! [They went through a phase of using ultrasonics, but
we'll skip that for now!]) Infra-red needed line-of-sight, so there
_had_ to be a wired IR receiver on your desk somewhere, even if the
mouse itself had no wire. (The receiver was usually tucked _fairly_ out
of the way, such as under the monitor.) Given that that had to be
present, I thought it was a clever thought to make it a charger too: the
mouse was still "wireless" when you were actually _using_ it. (The
current consumption of electronics is a lot lower than it was in those
days too.)
[]

[FACE]

On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 07:32:51 -0400, in alt.windows7.general, knuttle

Post by knuttle
I have gave up on them and gone back to a wired mouse.

I did the same. I find that wired mouse pointers are getting harder to come by.

[Big Al]

Post by Frank Slootweg
Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?
If so, when and for how long? During the night? More often? At other
times? Etc..
We bought a Logitech MK295 Silent Wireless Combo (K295 keyboard and
M220 mouse) for my wife's computer.
The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse. It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.
Probably the Logitech site has some more information on this, but I'd
like to hear from people who actually use a wireless keyboard or/and
mouse. So, what (not) to do and what to expect as realistic battery
life.
So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night? Also for shorter periods
during the day? Etc..
And if you switch them off, is the computer also switched off or
sleeping during that time? If sleeping, do you know if the USB-port is
powered when the computer is sleeping?
Thanks.

I have a wireless mouse on a laptop, 2 of them. Logitech M330's and they go to sleep when not in use.
That said, I get more like 2-3 months on 2 AA batteries. I use mine for maybe 8-10 hours a day, maybe more.

[Char Jackson]

Post by Big Al

Post by Frank Slootweg
Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?
If so, when and for how long? During the night? More often? At other
times? Etc..
We bought a Logitech MK295 Silent Wireless Combo (K295 keyboard and
M220 mouse) for my wife's computer.
The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse. It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.
Probably the Logitech site has some more information on this, but I'd
like to hear from people who actually use a wireless keyboard or/and
mouse. So, what (not) to do and what to expect as realistic battery
life.
So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night? Also for shorter periods
during the day? Etc..
And if you switch them off, is the computer also switched off or
sleeping during that time? If sleeping, do you know if the USB-port is
powered when the computer is sleeping?
Thanks.

I have a wireless mouse on a laptop, 2 of them. Logitech M330's and they go to sleep when not in use.
That said, I get more like 2-3 months on 2 AA batteries. I use mine for maybe 8-10 hours a day, maybe more.

My main mouse is a Logitech M705 and they say I should get 3 years from a
pair of AA's but I only get about 2.5 years. Still, that's not too bad, and
the mouse has an LED that glows red when the batteries get low. I don't
bother to turn off the mouse since it turns off by itself after a few
seconds of being idle. Like Big Al, I tend to use the mouse throughout the
day, with 8-10 hours being common.

[Rene Lamontagne]

On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 08:36:41 -0400, in alt.windows7.general, Big Al

Post by Big Al
I have a wireless mouse on a laptop, 2 of them. Logitech M330's and they go to sleep when not in use.
That said, I get more like 2-3 months on 2 AA batteries. I use mine for maybe 8-10 hours a day, maybe more.

I got about the same. and then about twice that for a wireless keyboard. Similar
usage if not more.

I get over a year on good quality 2 AA alkaline cells with my Logitech
M510, running about 14 hrs a day, 7 days a week, and No i never turn it off.

Apparently the M710 does even better, I use wired keyboards only,
because it never moves from in front of my monitor.

Rene

[Wolffan]

Post by Frank Slootweg
Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?

not on the keyboard. Rodents/trackballs/trackpads eat batteries, they get
turned off.

Post by Frank Slootweg
If so, when and for how long? During the night? More often? At other
times? Etc..

over night.

Post by Frank Slootweg
We bought a Logitech MK295 Silent Wireless Combo (K295 keyboard and
M220 mouse) for my wife's computer.
The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard

the keyboard will last longer. I’m on my first set of batteries for my
wireless keyboard for my main Windows machine, after nearly 5 years.

Post by Frank Slootweg
and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse.

good luck with that.

Post by Frank Slootweg
It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.

you can get 18-24 months with rodents... if you turn ‘em off at night.

I have Apple’s keyboard and trackpad which have built-in rechargeable
batteries. I charged both up to 100% a few months ago. The keyboard is 87%,
the trackpad is 20% and I’ve plugged it into charging. True, they’re
Bluetooth, which eats battery, but that trackpad has a _serious_ appetite.
Logi’s stuff probably isn’t BT and so will last a lot longer, but the
rodent will still eat battery. Invest in rechargeable batteries or be
prepared to buy batteries in packs. Or turn the rodent off at night.

Post by Frank Slootweg
Probably the Logitech site has some more information on this, but I'd
like to hear from people who actually use a wireless keyboard or/and
mouse. So, what (not) to do and what to expect as realistic battery
life.

If you turn them off, two years for rodents, five plus for keyboards. (Still
on first batteries on the keyboard)

Post by Frank Slootweg
So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night? Also for shorter periods
during the day? Etc..

I leave ‘em on all day, turn ‘em off at night.

Post by Frank Slootweg
And if you switch them off, is the computer also switched off or
sleeping during that time?

sleeping

Post by Frank Slootweg
If sleeping, do you know if the USB-port is
powered when the computer is sleeping?
Thanks.

[Fokke Nauta]

Post by Frank Slootweg
Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?
If so, when and for how long? During the night? More often? At other
times? Etc..
We bought a Logitech MK295 Silent Wireless Combo (K295 keyboard and
M220 mouse) for my wife's computer.
The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse. It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.
Probably the Logitech site has some more information on this, but I'd
like to hear from people who actually use a wireless keyboard or/and
mouse. So, what (not) to do and what to expect as realistic battery
life.
So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night? Also for shorter periods
during the day? Etc..
And if you switch them off, is the computer also switched off or
sleeping during that time? If sleeping, do you know if the USB-port is
powered when the computer is sleeping?
Thanks.

I have tree wireless mouses (all Logitech) and one wireless keyboard.
They are allways switched off, unless I use the computer to wich they
belong. Only then they are powered on. Two of the mouses belong to
laptops, and they are allways switched off when I don't use them.
Battery life time of the mouses and keyboard last very long. I can't
remember when I replaced a battery for them.

Fokke

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Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?
If so, when and for how long? During the night? More often? At other
times? Etc..
We bought a Logitech MK295 Silent Wireless Combo (K295 keyboard and
M220 mouse) for my wife's computer.
The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse. It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.
Probably the Logitech site has some more information on this, but I'd
like to hear from people who actually use a wireless keyboard or/and
mouse. So, what (not) to do and what to expect as realistic battery
life.
So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night? Also for shorter periods
during the day? Etc..
And if you switch them off, is the computer also switched off or
sleeping during that time? If sleeping, do you know if the USB-port is
powered when the computer is sleeping?
Thanks.

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Post by Frank Slootweg
Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?

I have a wireless mouse, logitech M575. The only time it gets turned off is
when I'm travelling with it. Same as my previous M570. The batteries lasted
for ages.

[Frank Slootweg]

Thanks for all your responses.

For the moment, I'll take Rudy Wieser's/Char Jackson's lead and will
not switch off/on the wireless keyboard/mouse.

If the batteries run out too quickly, I'll change that approach.

Again, thanks to all.

[Original post:]

Post by Frank Slootweg
Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?
If so, when and for how long? During the night? More often? At other
times? Etc..
We bought a Logitech MK295 Silent Wireless Combo (K295 keyboard and
M220 mouse) for my wife's computer.
The package says "36-month battery life" for the keyboard and
"18-month battery life" for the mouse. It also says "Battery life may
vary based on user [sic], environmental and computing conditions". But
it does not say whether that assumes that the devices are switched off
when not in use and if so, during which periods.
Probably the Logitech site has some more information on this, but I'd
like to hear from people who actually use a wireless keyboard or/and
mouse. So, what (not) to do and what to expect as realistic battery
life.
So what do you do? Do you switch them off when not using the computer
for a long time, for example during the night? Also for shorter periods
during the day? Etc..
And if you switch them off, is the computer also switched off or
sleeping during that time? If sleeping, do you know if the USB-port is
powered when the computer is sleeping?
Thanks.

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

Post by Frank Slootweg
Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?
If so, when and for how long? During the night? More often? At other
times? Etc..

My mouse batteries last for about a month. I switch it off every night
if I remember.

Steve

[John]

On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:07:58 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Frank Slootweg
Do you switch off/on (the batteries) of your wireless keyboard or/and
mouse?
If so, when and for how long? During the night? More often? At other
times? Etc..

My mouse batteries last for about a month. I switch it off every night
if I remember.

Truly?

I have never done that and my KB batteries last for years while my
micey ones last at least a year.

Am I doing something wrong?
J.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Steve