Discussion:
Noticed an address change on Eternal-September
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Paul
2023-10-22 08:32:38 UTC
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The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".

It is not. It is working.

However, at the moment, I see this.

The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).

PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

Name: news.eternal-september.org
Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2

Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.

PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170
Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.

*******

Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".

Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.

Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .

It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
world wide, if this setup changes again.

Paul
...winston
2023-10-22 05:43:12 UTC
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Post by Paul
The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".
It is not. It is working.
However, at the moment, I see this.
The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).
PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.
PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170
Aliases: www.eternal-september.org
It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.
*******
Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".
Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.
Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .
It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
world wide, if this setup changes again.
Paul
PS
nslookup news.eternal-september.org
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170

nslookup www.eternal-september.org
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170
Aliases: www.eternal-september.org
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...winston
2023-10-22 05:49:36 UTC
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p.s. Clock or Timeserver problem at your end or Eternal Sept problem?

The message time stamp of my reply is accurate for my time zone
...roughly just shy of 3 hrs before your initial post
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Paul
2023-10-22 05:59:01 UTC
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Post by ...winston
p.s. Clock or Timeserver problem at your end or Eternal Sept problem?
The message time stamp of my reply is accurate for my time zone
 ...roughly just shy of 3 hrs before your initial post
The clock is wrong because I switched machines in an attempt
to recover function.

*******

Strangely, the situation seems resolved, and I didn't reboot anything.
This is collected on the same machine, as the original report.

PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170

PS C:\Users> nslookup www.eternal-september.org

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170
Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

Paul
....winston
2023-10-22 07:02:49 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by ...winston
p.s. Clock or Timeserver problem at your end or Eternal Sept problem?
The message time stamp of my reply is accurate for my time zone
 ...roughly just shy of 3 hrs before your initial post
The clock is wrong because I switched machines in an attempt
to recover function.
Ah, that explains the time stamp....noticed as soon as my post
appeared....were both in -400 zone
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JJ
2023-10-22 11:37:00 UTC
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Post by Paul
The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".
It is not. It is working.
However, at the moment, I see this.
The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).
PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.
PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170
Aliases: www.eternal-september.org
It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.
*******
Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".
Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.
Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .
It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
world wide, if this setup changes again.
Paul
No wonder the server response time has become very fast.

It usually took about half a minute to connect. Now it's snappy.
Marco Moock
2023-11-03 12:28:34 UTC
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Post by Paul
(and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).
Teredo still exists, although connectivity is very bad and some Teredo
servers don't exist anymore.

If your ISP doesn't give you IPv6, you can use a SIT tunnel from
Hurricane Electric.

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